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01-18-2008, 12:23 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | second thoughts on wicca i'm having second thoughts on wicca/witchcraft i used to be into it and now i'm part of gods' world but satan keeps on tempting me to get back into it and i'm starting to have bad stuff happening to me like don't laugh i've been in my room at my grandpas house and i shut the door and i got locked in his room and there was no locks on the doors. also i've been having nightmares and i didn't know it was possible but i've been hurting myself in my dreams and it shows in reality. like ex. i scratched my hand and now in reality its all raw and bloody. please pray for me everything is happening bad to me. why? jen | 
01-18-2008, 07:22 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | Father, we lift up Jen to you and ask you to put your protection around her. We cover her with the blood of Jesus and bind all demonic spirits operating in her life. You have set her free and we declare freedom for her in Jesus' name. | 
01-20-2008, 01:27 AM
| | | God is with us Dear Lord,
By your name and your power - I rebuke evil spirits from your child! They have NO right to her! Protect her always with a shield of armour so that they can't get to her. Send an army of angels who can help her fight these evil spirits that keep attacking her. By your love and mercy Lord, claim her and keep her close! I pray these things in your name, Heavenly Father. Amen | 
01-20-2008, 11:37 AM
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Rep Power: 1 | | Hello Jen,
We pray with you in your struggles to keep your faith in Jesus and fight 0ff satan. We will always have my th0ughts and prayers with you. Be blessed. | 
01-20-2008, 03:54 PM
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Rep Power: 2 | | Then cometh JESUS with them came unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder. And He took with Him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy. Then saith He unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with Me. And He went a little further, and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O My FATHER, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU WILT. And He cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and said unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with Me one hour? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak. He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O My FATHER, if this cup may not pass away from Me, except I drink it, THY WILL BE DONE. And He came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy. And He left them and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the SAME words. Then cometh He to His disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Rise, let us be going: behold, he is at hand that doth betray Me. (Matthew 26:36-46)
No one except the FATHER can understand the depth of anguish and pain our precious LORD must have been feeling during this time. It is apparent the “inward” pain was so intense, one of the other gospels explain the LORD sweat as being that of great drops of blood. He was about to be led away, to be executed for crimes that He had Not committed. Knowing what lied ahead of Him, the knowledge of the physical pain He would endure would be less painful than knowing upon that hour He would be separated from the FATHER. Once sin was laid upon Him, the FATHER would have to look away, He would have to remove his Spirit as He could not stand in the presence of sin. Though His body would be broken, would be bruised, would be beaten beyond recognition, the physical pain would be indescribable, even more than this, would be the inward pain of being separated from FATHER for even a moment. To feel the utter loneliness, the despair, the depth of such intense isolation was nearly unbearable. The very thought of it would bring upon anguish and such inner pain that all one could do is cry out to the FATHER. We can only understand a very small portion of what our LORD had felt. His pain was beyond anything we’ve ever experienced or shall. However, each one of us, because of sin at one time or another in our lives have found ourselves separated from the FATHER, and it is an utterly lonely, painful and most difficult situation to be in when the presence of the HOLY SPIRIT is no longer felt. Many can think back, before meeting the LORD, when there was so much emptiness inside all that was felt was utter hopelessness and loneliness. Nothing could fill the void inside, although many things were tried. But, no matter what we tried to put IN, the void remained until we surrendered to the LORD, and received fellowship with His HOLY SPIRIT. That emptiness, anguish, separation from FATHER we once felt, is what our LORD felt, only He felt it on a Much Larger Scale.
In the midst of His pain, in the midst of His anguish the LORD cries out to the FATHER, O My FATHER, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless NOT AS I WILL, BUT AS THOU WILT He cries a second time, O My FATHER, if this cup may not pass away from Me, except I drink it, THY WILL BE DONE. Yet a third time He cries out to FATHER, using the same words and surrendering totally to the FATHER’s will, He gives of Himself to be the sacrificial Lamb of GOD. Although the LORD knew of the torture, suffering pain both physically and emotional torment, anguish of seperation from the FATHER that awaited Him, He knew also of the victory which lied beyond the pain. He knew there was but ONE way the plan of GOD would be fulfilled though Him, and because of His Unfailing Love for you and I, and seeing the VICTORY which lied AHEAD, our SAVIOR, our SALVATION , The KING of kings and LORD of Lords, our GREATEST TEACHER OF OBEDIENCE declared: NOT MY WILL, BUT THINE!
What would have happened if the LORD had chose to not surrender to the will of the FATHER? If He’d said enough is enough, these people don’t love Me nor the FATHER. Why should I die for them? What would have happened if He’d sought a less painful way to fulfill His mission an “easier way out”? If He’d said there has to be a better way to do this, where the people may still be saved and I wouldn’t have to give My Life..
If He had done this, we would still be bound by the letter of the law, would not have direct access to the FATHER but would find ourselves separated from Him, would not be joint heirs with the KING, and there would have been NO door to Salvation and eternal life with the FATHER. But, through the Sufferings of our BELOVED SAVIOR we now have the privledge and honor of being called the sons and daughters of GOD; we now have direct access to our FATHER through His son JESUS CHRIST our LORD; our sins have been washed clean by the blood of the LAMB Of GOD; we are now JOINT HEIRS with our LORD, so what is His is ours; we are no longer strangers but citizens of the Kingdom; we have now been offered the greatest gift of all, eternal life through our acceptance of Him; every promise given NOW belongs to us; we have authority now in HIS NAME to break the bondage and chains of darkness; we have been given a HELPER, a TEACHER, a COMFORTER, a FRIEND, GOD’s very own SPIRIT to lead and guide us in the ways of our FATHER that we may be pleasing to HIM; because of HIM -NO weapon formed against us shall prosper; because of HIM sickness Nor disease shall invade our house which is the temple of the LIVING GOD; because of HIM demons tremble at the mere mentioning of HIS NAME; because of HIM we can do all things as HE gives us strength; because of HIM we can declare: O Death where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory as HE has conquered them both; because of HIM we can say with surety Yea though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I SHALL FEAR NO EVIL, for thou ART WITH ME; because of HIM we have been redeemed from the curse of the law, because of HIM THERE IS HOPE! All this and more, because HE said to the Father “NOT MY WILL, BUT THINE”
And now we MUST do the same. Just as the Lord saw the VICTORY awaiting before the persecution and sufferings began, and during the horrific pain, we to must look beyond the shadows of our afflictions and see what lies ahead. The LORD didn’t suffer for nothing, and neither are any of us suffering for nothing! Since the foundation of the world GOD had a purpose, a plan, thus HE gave his only begotten SON to fulfill this plan. We now reap the benefits of our LORDs OBEDIENCE! Just as our FATHER had a plan for our Salvation, He also has a plan for each and every one of our lives. He knows the beginning and end to all things and in this walk, there are No Shortcuts but ONE road we must stay on. We Might Stumble and Fall but if we Keep Pressing Forward we will see there is VICTORY ahead and, there is but ONE WAY to receive it. We MUST SAY TO THE FATHER: “NOT MY WILL, BUT THINE”…..GLORIFY THYSELF MY LORD! Through the suffering, you will obtain the prize and then…..there is the promise of rest!
“FOR I RECCKON THAT THE SUFFERINGS OF THIS PRESENT TIME ARE NOT WORTHY TO BE COMPARED WITH THE GLORY WHICH SHALL BE REVEALED IN US.” (Romans 8:18)
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01-21-2008, 02:45 AM
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Rep Power: 1 | | Dear Jen, what i believe is happening is actual demonic manifestations because of your previous involvements. This is actually normal on your way to freedom. The demon(s) act up because they do not want to leave you. But they will but you must persevere.
In all of the deliverance testimonies i have heard that consistently reading scriptures, praying, and other's praying for you (pastors/elders/godly presons) where elements involved in the ultimate deliverance.... this battle is a process where you will win. Just need to remain steadfast and persevere without fear but in the power of Jesus Christ. If you have not before, now is the time to act as the perfect christian by going to church weekly or even several times a week where there is prayer if possible, by reading scriptures, etc.
I have found some interesting facts through internet research, i have also read the book "The Handbook for Spiritual Warfare" by Ed Murphy, though i do not agree with all of his practical theories, he is the foremost expert regarding this, and the book is actually very good. But most importantly i have heard it from those who have gone through it or heard from close friends who have gone through it.
__________________ Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:11-12) | 
01-21-2008, 11:08 AM
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Rep Power: 2 | | jen, have you thought about being baptized and taking Holy Communion? Have you talked to a Pastor, Minister or even a Priest about baptism and Holy Communion? You really should. | 
01-22-2008, 04:53 PM
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Rep Power: 2 | | Hello, Jen Quote:
Originally Posted by silver2001 i'm having second thoughts on wicca/witchcraft i used to be into it and now i'm part of gods' world but satan keeps on tempting me to get back into it and i'm starting to have bad stuff happening to me like don't laugh i've been in my room at my grandpas house and i shut the door and i got locked in his room and there was no locks on the doors. also i've been having nightmares and i didn't know it was possible but i've been hurting myself in my dreams and it shows in reality. like ex. i scratched my hand and now in reality its all raw and bloody. please pray for me everything is happening bad to me. why? jen | Hi, Jen I just read your post. If you haven't gotten to ALL of the Book of Jeremiah, the things I will share can be found in Jeremiah. Remember, everything in the bible is inspired by GOD and is TRUTH. It's like a manuel for our lives (GOD's Creation). Listen carefully, Jen. BEFORE you were concieved in your mother's womb, GOD knew about you. Before you were bourn, GOD already knew your name before your parents ever thought up your name. Your BIRTH was ORDAINED by GOD. You were set aside by GOD and He chose you to be part of His plan; a plan for salvation and eternal life for mankind. There is no greater gift in existence. I said ALL of that to say this...Before you were bourn, your life was BLESSED and CHOSEN by GOD. There is no force, KNOWN or UNKNOWN to mankind that can curse what GOD has already blessed. You have CLOSED the door on satan and opened the door to Jesus Christ, our Saviour and Creator. Again, no force in existence, KNOWN or UNKNOWN to mankind (or the forces of darkness) that can open a door that GOD has closed or close a door that GOD has opened. Remember Noah and the Ark? GOD closed the door permanently when the people Noah witnessed to for 120 years refused to listen and even mocked and belittled him. Note: Noah did not close the door on all those people. GOD supernaturally sealed the door shut from them entering in. Jen, if you have not been baptized, you must do so at your earliest convenience. Make an appointment with your Pastor. You need to confess what you have done (as on this site) and tell the Lord that you are sorry and to forgive your past. That is what He is waiting on. He will keep you safe even though you walk through the valley of the shadow of death. Father, in Jesus Mighty name, ALL Intercessors come in Your name, by Your power and authority, by the Holy Spirit, and by the "BLOOD" that was shed on the cross to redeem us. Satan we come in the name of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. We rebuke you and command you and your forces of darkness and your principalities to BOW down at the name of our Creator. You will back off of this one who has been chosen by GOD. The blood of Jesus is against you, Satan. You cannot enter where the blood is. We command you to release her mind, body, soul and spirit and to go to the place that has been designated for you. We speak peace to Jen. Father, let Your Joy and peace surround every fiber of her being to give her rest from the attacks of the enemy. We ask Your protection as she is covered with the blood. Holy Spirit move quickly for us into Jen's life and create an insatiable desire for the things of GOD. Send Your Warring Angels to protect her and labourers to minister Your Word to her and lead her to the paths of righteousness and eternal life. We ask ALL for Your glory and honour. Be it unto us according to our faith and Your promises. Amen!
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03-10-2008, 04:32 PM
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Rep Power: 1 | | God please put your arms around Jen and Satan get away from her in Jesus sweet name.
__________________ Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you God bless you all. | 
03-14-2008, 05:46 PM
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Rep Power: 2 | | Silver 2001, Where are you? I want you to know we are still praying for you. GOD is always with you and the Holy Spirit will give you wisdom to make the right decisions. Be sensitive to GOD's calling and read your bible and pray as often ad you can make the time to do it. Pray in your thoughts if you can. I stand with you in Christ, our Deliverer. |
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